Difference in MANPAD effectiveness in current conflicts

So even before the West flooded Ukraine with MANPADS early on, Russian airborne insertions and attack helicopters and even fixed-wing aviation suffered losses.

Meanwhile Venezuela no US aircraft were lost, with multiple helicopters flying around the capital and close to sensitive sites – the Presidential palace

What explains the difference in outcomes?

– Timing: soldiers not at post at 1am, despite the US armada off the coast.

– Limited willingness of Venezuelan soldiers to actually fight or commanders bribed.

– The US has effective countermeasures against older soviet IR based missiles, heat signature minimisiation and flares. BUT – are these really so much better than Russia’s?

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January 4, 2026
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