Ever hear about the pastor raised by three gay parents? No, it’s not the setup for a joke – it’s the remarkable story of author / pastor Caleb Kaltenbach. This week, Steve and the gang sit down with Caleb to discuss the need for and challenges of showing God’s love to those in the LGBTQ community. Caleb’s newest book is called “Messy Truth: How to Foster Community Without Sacrificing Conviction” ().

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Caleb Kaltenbach serves as Research Pastor at Shepherd Church in Los Angeles. He’s also the founder of The Messy Grace Group. Besides speaking, writing, and consulting, Caleb has been a guest with or featured in The New York Times, Fox and Friends, The Glenn Beck Show, The Eric Metaxas Show, and Christianity Today, among many others. Caleb’s newest book is called “Messy Truth: How to Foster Community Without Sacrificing Conviction” ().

00:00 – Open
03:21 – Meet Caleb Kaltenbach
06:06 – Struggling to decide whether or not to write “Messy Truth”
09:26 – We forget that we’re sinners
13:34 – Caleb’s experience in being raised by three gay parents
14:48 – Caleb disliked hateful Christians – until he turned 16 and THIS happened…
14:54 – ‘Coming out’ to his parents as a Christian – and what happened next
15:23 – The impact of believers’ kindness to Caleb’s parents
16:56 – “Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin” ?
19:15 – How do folks in the LGBTQ community react to the offer of unconditional love?
24:25 – A powerful example of Messy Truth in action relating to a lesbian couple at church
29:16 – The conclusion of the story
32:48 – Caleb’s advice to parents of children who identify as gay or transgender
35:50 – The pushback Caleb gets – from believers AND the LGBTQ community
37:50 – Steve’s closing thoughts
40:13 – Next week’s guest is…

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