FIRST AIRED on Oct 20, 2020 as Taking it to the Streets w/ Vocab Malone (Ep 35)
The Sons of Light are joined by Vocab Malone, Christian apologist, host of ‘The Street Apologist’ show on his YouTube channel, and rap artist. We discuss with Vocab the topic of a recent debate that he had with a young LDS apologist named Kwaku El titled, “Is the Athanasian Creed True?” Topics of this episode include his history and background in apologetics, the doctrine of the Trinity, the material and immaterial as it relates to the nature of God, eternal law in LDS thought, upcoming debates, and the magic backpack.
1 hour 25 minutes
You can watch his debate with Kwaku on the topic of the Athanasian Creed on the “The Gospel Truth” channel here:
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 – Podcast introduction and introducing Vocab
04:49 – Would you like to share anything more about your background: where you’re from, how you came to know Christ, etc.?
06:44 – Where did the name ‘The Street Apologist’ come from?
—————– Questions on the debate with Kwaku:
12:40 – Do you have any comments about the debate in general, how did you prepare for it, how do you think it went? Background on the Athanasian Creed, how the topic of the debate was chosen
21:17 – Who decided the phrasing of the debate, “Is the Athanasian Creed True?” Addressing anti-creedal sentiments in the foundation of the LDS church
26:44 – Why do you think creeds like the Athanasian Creed are important for Christians today?
31:25 – In Kwaku’s opening statement, he contrasted coming to understand the true nature of God from either Biblical ‘prooftexting’ or through what makes sense to us. Do you think he set up a false dichotomy?
42:46 – Why did you define Biblical monotheism as you did in your opening statement? Why is it important? Discussion on Michael Heiser’s work on the divine council and quoting from church history
53:32 – Why is it so difficult for LDS to accept the Trinity? How can we help them understand it?
1:12:34 – In your rebuttal, you focused on addressing the Trinity versus the LDS definition of the Godhead. Can you go more in depth on these differences?
1:23:43 – Discussion on God being immaterial and the LDS view of the eternal law, is it a problem that the Triune God is immaterial?
1:39:58 – Any closing statements you’d like to make for our listeners?
1:43:36 – Upcoming debates, Vocab’s YouTube channel
1:45:58 – Outro
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